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Patrick Krolis: Thank you very much, I am trying to get somewhere here, have long not reached the goal as yet

Patrick Krolis: I am trying to achieve something indeed, but obviously have not achieved it fully yet

Helloooo!!!
Love the lighting! Nice comp! Good styling!
Hand sticking out by her bumm looks strange

We think we know what part of the problem of this shoot was...

1. No MUA was involved.
2. No hairstylist was involved.
3. The model has only one look (she has this bored sleepy eyes that is off putting)

Now we do not want to put the model down, it happens sometimes that a model does not bring their A game to the shoot. (We just did a magazine shoot with some models where one of the model's unfortunately as she did not bring her A game to the shoot, none of her images are been choosen by the mag editor)

Now the photographer can do his best to bring out the best in the model, he then takes the pics and passes it on to the prospective client or mag, now here you don't have a say in what is choosen. It's up to the model to ensure that whatever shoot they do, they percentage of good great shots far outway the bad ones.

In this sense the model has let herself down.

Now to the hair & makeup issue, she looks all elegant and all in the dress, then we look at her face, and it does not match the elegance she wears. Looks plain and drab withouth the proper professionals working on her.

Now here is a lesson to Patrick, you want your images to be noticed by the best magazines and clients who will be willing to pay top dollar for your time and effort.

If this is what they are going to see, they will move on to the next wannabe (like ourselves ) People who see our comments on your images think we are uneccessary harsh, but we are just telling a photographer who wants to take hiw work way past taking pictures for fun the truth, you want to make a profession out of photography, then your work has to compare with what is being seen in the best magazines.

Oh before we forget, what in the world is her right arm doing, it makes the image look even uglier sticking out like that.

If you can, we would love to see what you will come up with for your next shoot. Think of every detail of the shoot a lot more (you do this when you did the boxing shots) So why can't you with these type of shots?

I am really not qualified to offer constructive criticism of fashion photography, but to me she looks too bored and indifferent to pull of the shot. I do like the textures of the dress and the contrast her skin makes with it.

I think the pose is almost right, her expression almost right, her neck needs to be a titchy bit straighter and perhaps her feet in slightly different positions and her right hand needs to be invisible.

Try telling her to look as if she's smelled something slightly unpleasant, but is with people who she daren't mention it to

I'm being picky aren't I, only because you're using a red shmood

I think the picture has potential

Patrick Krolis: thank you very much Rags!!

I found that Haute Couture always use a semi bored looking model in most shoots so I don't see the problem here except that hand that's a bid odd. Keep at it Patrick! You're doing great.

The model looks uninspired. The setting is good though. I think S&S made some good points in their post.

nice, isn't simple to take a picture with all this white

Una elegante pose. Quizás haría faltaría destacar más las texturas en el vestido. Pero lo que no veo bien es la posición de la mano derecha!

An elegant pose. Perhaps it would do would lack to emphasize plus the textures in the dress. But what I do not see well it is the position of the right hand!